I followed the procedure to update the Record Cleaner and when I updated the rules received the attached error message. On inspecting the BC Butterfly rules, the folder is empty. The moth rules appear to have updated, however the micro moths Cataclysta lemnata, Elophila nymphaeata and Nymphula nitidulata only appear in the period and flightperiod rules and not in the tenkm rules. There may be others - flight period contains 2697 files while tenkm has 864.

Charlie Darling
Scottish Wildlife Trust

Sophie,

Thanks for the quick response. There are a few other queries that I have:-

1.    I had several attempts trying to install the Record Cleaner. In one, I must have clicked on the OK button when the message about the Butterfly Rules appeared perhaps mistaking it for the message which states that errors have occurred but it is OK to use the Record Cleaner. After updating the rest of the rules I processed a collection of invertebrate records. At the verification stage I kept getting messages like the attached image. This occurred for about 11 Hoverfly species and approximately 110 Spider species. I thought this looked familiar and on searching the forum foundthat I had previously posted about this -

see https://forums.nbn.org.uk/viewtopic.php?id=4256.

Graham French reply that it should be fixed by version V1.0.8.4. However the downloadable version is V1.0.8.3.

2. The link on the page https://nbn.org.uk/tools-and-resources/ … d-cleaner/ to the Record Cleaner Installer does not appear to work. I had to copy the address and add an s to http to access it.

3. The Record Cleaner has two range rules for Bombus lucorum

Bombus (Bombus) lucorum fres_adj_dist_thres 100.txt
Bombus (Bombus) lucorum    TVK    NHMSYS0000875473

Bombus lucorum fres_adj_dist_thres 100.txt
Bombus lucorum    TVK    NHMSYS0020936546

Only one period rule

Bombus (Bombus) lucorum seasonal time period rule.txt
TVK    NHMSYS0000875473

In our version of Recorder:-

Recorder Master List    Dictionary version 50    Recorder Version 6.30.291

Bombus lucorum    TVK    NHMSYS0000875570

Bombus lucorum sensu lato    TVK    NHMSYS0020936546

Charlie

Sophie,

I forgot to mention that I am using Windows 10 so the software update in the Record Cleaner will not work. I reinstalled the Record Cleaner, copied over the Master Species files and updated the rules. The Butterfly rules installed Ok but I still get the "Run Period Within Year - Index was outside the bounds of the array." message for some of the Hoverfly and Spider rules when I processed the same spreadsheet of invertebrate records. Unfortunately, I have another set of records which has 239 spider records and over 300 Hoverfly records.

Charlie

Sophie,

Just checking to see if you had received my email with the attached files RC Hoverfly Sample.xlsx and RC Spider Sample.xlsx as I have not had an acknowledgement of its receipt.

Charlie

Thanks for letting me know Charlie,

Yes, that sounds like you now have the latest version. Let me know if you still have problems with the rules. I meant to look today but didn't get to it.

Thanks, Sophie

Thanks for letting me know Charlie.

There is now an updated master species list. You should be able to replace the two files you have with the latest version from here: https://forums.nbn.org.uk/viewtopic.php?id=7767

Best wishes, Sophie

Hi Charlie,
Curruca curruca (TVK NHMSYS0021311347) is in the master species list. I wonder if the master species list hasn't updated correctly.

Did you take the latest version from here:  https://forums.nbn.org.uk/viewtopic.php?id=7767 and copy the two text files into the Verification Data folder under your local installation of Record Cleaner?

Best wishes, Sophie

Hi Sophie,

I believe I mentioned to you last year via email that under specific conditions, the Record Cleaner software autoupdater works for me under windows 10, I'm able to replicate this every time; however, it may be a peculiarity of my W10 install, it may not work for everybody!!

If anyone does want to try it: Uninstall Record Cleaner and remove all associated folders i.e. C:\Program Files(x86)\NBNRecordCleaner and if it exists C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\NBNRecordCleaner; reboot; install (run as Administrator) Record Cleaner v1.0.8.3 with defaults; click "Software updates available". For me it updates the software to v1.0.8.5 and updates the Master Species List (MSL), although not the latest version.

Now the caveat... If it doesn't work, you can only attempt the process once a day, trying to do it more than once it fails to update  and the updater window hangs, you have to wait for the following day to try again. Hopefully this may give someone a pointer on the issue?

However, all that aside, the MSL the autoupdater downloads isn't the latest version, would it be possible to update the autoupdater version with the latest version please? I'm going to be running a couple of beginner workshops for county moth recorders soon and I want to demo the above install process and the autoupdater to show the delegates the autoupdater can work.