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Topic: Errors in R6 BIRDS dictionary

Just reporting a couple of apparent anomalies in the R6 species dictionary in the hope that they can be fixed in a future update.

For info I'm using v6.23.2.279 and dictionary 0000003B

These refer to the BIRDS list.

The family Tetraonidae (Grouse) has no children and species which should belong to this family appear in Phasianidae

The genus Chordeiles Swainson, 1832 has a common name showing 'Indet, Harrier' -  this is clearly incorrect.

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Mark Pollitt
SWSEIC (formerly DGERC)

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Re: Errors in R6 BIRDS dictionary

Hi Mark

The loss of Tetraonidae seems to have come in with the most recent revision of the BOU list and is correct in terms of accepted bird taxonomy. Grouse come out in the subfamily Tetraoninae now but, as the BOU doesn't link subfamilies in, we haven't got that as part of the tree.

Not quite sure about the "Indet, Harrier" names - I think they're pretty much junk names from old lists but I will move them over to the genus Circus, as that seems to be the closest match :)

Best wishes,
Chris R.

Chris Raper, Manager of the UK Species Inventory, Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity,
Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD.  (tel: 020 7942 5894)
also Tachinid Recording Scheme (http://tachinidae.org.uk/)

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Re: Errors in R6 BIRDS dictionary

Hopefully in the same vein....

One of our volunteers just noted that thrushes are not sitting under F. Turdidae but instead are under Muscicapidae (Old World Flycatchers), both sit under Passeriformes. Muscicapidae seems to have a lot of extra genera in it. Checking the NHM Species dictionary this shows Turdus under Turdidae as expected. Also under Passeriformes: Thraupidae and Icteridae are empty. There are other species that seem strange too. We're on v6.24.0.280 and dictionary 0000003B.

Thanks
Purgle

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Purgle Linham
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Re: Errors in R6 BIRDS dictionary

Yes, the problem seems to be that the BOU list has sunk Turdidae and dropped everything into Muscicapidae. I will have a chat with the experts though and see if this is still the prevailing theory :)

Chris Raper, Manager of the UK Species Inventory, Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity,
Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD.  (tel: 020 7942 5894)
also Tachinid Recording Scheme (http://tachinidae.org.uk/)

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Re: Errors in R6 BIRDS dictionary

Hi Purgle

I've chatted with Andy and the BTO and he says the situation with thrushes and flycatchers is getting very complicated on a world level. I think we have made it a bit more confusing in the UKSI because the family Turdidae has been sunk to a subfamily (Turdinae) but we don't link-in the subfamilies in Organism yet, so it seems liek Turdus it pointed directly at Muscicapidae when in reality it should be subfamily Turdinae. Andy quoted this from a recent paper:

Several studies support monophyly of a group formed by thrushes, chats and flycatchers (Sibley & Ahlquist 1990, Cibois & Cracraft 2004, Beresford et al. 2005, Treplin et al. 2008, but see Voelker & Spellman 2004, Fuchs et al. 2006b). Recent evidence indicates that the thrushes (Turdinae, sensu Sibley & Monroe 1990) are not monophyletic, because some taxa (e.g. Monticola) are part of a clade formed by chats and flycatchers (Voelker & Spellman 2004, Pan et al. 2006). Relationships among the ‘true’ thrushes have recently been clarified (Klicka et al. 2005, Voelker et al. 2006, Pan et al. 2007, Nylander et al. 2008, Voelker & Klicka 2008). Numerous studies have shown that the chats (Saxicolini) are more closely related to the flycatchers (Muscicapini) than to the thrushes (Turdinae) (Sibley & Ahlquist 1990, Chikuni et al. 1996, Pasquet et al. 1999, Barker et al. 2002, 2004, Cibois & Cracraft 2004, Voelker & Spellman 2004, Fuchs et al. 2006b, Treplin et al. 2008). In fact, some of these studies indicate that Saxicolini (sensu Sibley & Ahlquist 1990) and Muscicapini (sensu Sibley & Ahlquist 1990) are not reciprocally monophyletic (Cibois & Cracraft 2004, Voelker & Spellman 2004, Treplin et al. 2008). As a result of these studies, Turdinae includes Zoothera, Ixoreus, Hylocichla, Catharus and Turdus (Klicka et al. 2005), Muscicapini includes two British genera (Muscicapa and Cercotrichas), and Saxicolini includes Erithacus, Luscinia, Tarsiger, Phoenicurus, Saxicola, Oenanthe, Monticola and Ficedula (Cibois & Cracraft 2004, Voelker & Spellman 2004). The position of Irania has not yet been assessed with phylogenetic methods; we retain this taxon in Saxicolini.

I hope to link in the bird subfamilies fairly soon and this should make the hierarchy easier to understand but I think this group will have more changes as scientists work out the exact placement of everything :)

Chris Raper, Manager of the UK Species Inventory, Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity,
Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD.  (tel: 020 7942 5894)
also Tachinid Recording Scheme (http://tachinidae.org.uk/)

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Re: Errors in R6 BIRDS dictionary

Blimey, that all sounds very complicated, but I guess that's genetics for you! Thanks very much Chris, we will look forward to a future dictionary update in due course.

Purgle

Purgle Linham
Wiltshire & Swindon Biological Records Centre