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Topic: Stigmella lemniscella

(I think this topic didn't transfer onto the new forum)

During my last upload to the Gateway NBN staff replaced the TVK of NHMSYS0000504358 that I supplied with my MapMate export via NAMESERVER_FOR_WIDER_DELIVERY_2008-03-01 with the TVK of NBNSYS0100005605.

NHMSYS0000504358 was the well-formed name for this species according to that version of the nameserver but it is missing from the current version of nameserver leaving only a badly-formed name version of NBNSYS0100005605.

Why has the well-formed version in NHMSYS0000504358 been removed to leave only a badly-formed version?

Also, I had always presumed that TVKs once assigned were immortal and couldn't disappear. Is this an incorrect assumption?

Regards, Keith

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Re: Stigmella lemniscella

Hi Keith

I have had a quick look into this in the current copy of the database. The issue predates my arrival so I am not sure what would have motivated any changes but you are correct that there is no TVK NHMSYS0000504358 and the current recommended TVK is NBNSYS0100005605. Furthermore, the remaining TVK, although marked as ill-formed, does look to me well-formed to me ... could you confirm that? PESI certainly lists the name identically in their database. Very odd. It is unusual to have an ill-formed name as the recommended name.

As a general rule, you are also correct that TVKs are immutable - like TLIKs - once created and used they will not be deleted. However, it is physically possible for an administrator to delete a TVK if he felt that it hadn't been used in the wider world ... i.e. there was no possibility for it to have had records or mapping associated with it. My reading (just based on what I can see and with no knowledge of the history) would be that, if both names existed at one time and were identical, the older one was marked as ill-formed to favour your newer name ... but later the newer name was removed because it was thought to be a duplicate that hadn't been used but the administrator didn't then mark the remaining one as well-formed. Bit of a mess, I agree, but I will look into it further and see if I can track down the cause.

Best wishes,
Chris R.

Chris Raper, Manager of the UK Species Inventory, Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity,
Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD.  (tel: 020 7942 5894)
also Tachinid Recording Scheme (http://tachinidae.org.uk/)

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Re: Stigmella lemniscella

The TAXON_AUTHORITY for NBNSYS0100005605 was changed between the 2008 and 2012 versions of nameserver. It was (Zeller, 839) and is now (Zeller, 1839). Maybe making this change created a duplicate and the new TVK was deleted even though it was by then in use in the wider world?

Afraid I have no idea what the correctly-formed name for this species should be.

Is the deleted TVK of NHMSYS0000504358 now blocked for reuse or could it re-appear as a completely different taxa in future to cause havoc?

Regards, Keith

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Re: Stigmella lemniscella

Hi Keith

I have chatted with Charles and he has discovered a breadcrumb trail in the change_logs that I had forgotten about. It basically confirms what we suspected.

You are correct, the authority on the old TVK was modified (something that we wouldn't usually do these days) but the entry in the NameServer wasn't changed to 'well-formed'. Before the modification it seems another entry had been created manually and after the authority of the original one was changed it created a duplication. Later this duplication was spotted and the newer TVK was archived. I'm pleased to say that nowadays this wouldn't happen because we have routines to spot duplicates and we would have just left the old, ill-formed name and repointed it to the new, well-formed one.

The correct name is, as it is now, "Stigmella lemniscella (Zeller, 1839)" - TVK NBNSYS0100005605 - and it will be marked as well-formed when I get round to changing the NameServer. TVK NHMSYS0000504358 was archived for reference purposes only and the TVK will never be reused - we don't reuse any keys.

I hope that clears up the confusion. The NBN Gateway seem to have translated your records correctly and when the NameServer has been corrected it will read 'well-formed'. :)

ChrisR.

Chris Raper, Manager of the UK Species Inventory, Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity,
Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD.  (tel: 020 7942 5894)
also Tachinid Recording Scheme (http://tachinidae.org.uk/)

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Re: Stigmella lemniscella

Thanks Chris. That all sounds fine.

Best wishes, Keith

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TVK NBNSYS0100005605 has now been updated to well-formed :)

Chris Raper, Manager of the UK Species Inventory, Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity,
Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD.  (tel: 020 7942 5894)
also Tachinid Recording Scheme (http://tachinidae.org.uk/)