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Topic: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

I've got to import some Badger data and have through advice set up a measurement type;
[img]http:///support.somerc.co.uk/badger/Measurement.jpg[/img]

I'm loading the number of active holes here so I have an abundance col and a qualifier of 'annex' or 'main' etc. I've tried things such as '2 main sett', '2 mainsett'. Here is where I am;
[img]http:///support.somerc.co.uk/badger/Before1.jpg[/img]

When I validate the columns it gets changed to this;
[img]http:///support.somerc.co.uk/badger/After1.jpg[/img]

The problem is then that it wants to set up new terms at a later stage for 'mainsett' and 'annexsett' etc. I've not seen any help on this to refer to. Where is it getting 'mainsett' from it is not in the term lists and I have as far as I can see tried the logical method. No doubt there is some special hand-shake required to allow me to progress this.

If you know what I've not done or done wrong it would be much appreciated.

Data Manger
Somerset Environmental Records Centre

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Re: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

Hi Tony,

Just got your phone message about this. I don't have a lot of time right now to think about it, but here are a few thoughts.
You are doing more with this than we did, we use a range of different observation/evidence types for badgers, water voles etc. but haven't tried implementing abundances at the same time. It looks as if the import wizard cannot distinguish between different uses of the measurement type. I think this is because you are matching your abundance data column with R6's generic "abundance data", which somehow then causes this mess

I would be tempted to try something like this.

At the top of the Measurement Type term list form, under Abundance, add a new Measurement Qualifier of ActiveHole, or Burrow (burrow might already be there) or similar, then when matching the field in the wizard, instead of selecting Abundance Data, scroll down to <more options>, then Taxon occurrence data, then look for an option which says Abundance of Burrow (Count).

This should then allow the columns to be validated so the first one lists items like 1 Burrow, 17 Burrow etc. (or maybe just the numbers) without involving the items in the other column. I think it effectively filters on the measurement qualifier, rather than involving all the measurement qualifiers it can find.

I haven't tested this, but I think it is the solution.

Rob Large
Wildlife Sites Officer
Wiltshire & Swindon Biological Records Centre

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Re: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

Brilliant Rob that worked a treat I now have such as;

Measurement  Qualifier       Data                Unit               Accuracy
Abundance      Active holes 13                    Count            Exact
Observation    Evidence      undetermined  Badger sett  Estimate

Data Manger
Somerset Environmental Records Centre

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Re: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

Glad to help out. I'd be interested to know if it works with comma separated values (as it normally does with abundances). E.g. what does it do if it comes across something like "12 Active holes, 2 disused holes" (assuming that additional qualifiers had been set up of course). It ought to work, producing multiple abundance records with different qualifiers.

Rob Large
Wildlife Sites Officer
Wiltshire & Swindon Biological Records Centre

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Re: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

Hello,
I might have a similar problem. I created a new Measurement Type with some Measurement Qualifiers and a Measurement Unit in Recorder. It works fine, when I import data with the import wizard from an Excel spreadsheet.
But I have problems, when I import from a zipped Access database. The import wizard at the end says, that there are no problems (no invalid records, no duplicates). Normal abundances appear in Recorder, but my new measurements are not displayed.
When I check the table TAXON_OCCURRENCE_DATA in the zipped database, I can see the new record in the table and the information is at it should be. I especially checked TAXON_OCCURRENCE_KEY, MEASUREMENT_QUALIFIER_KEY and MEASUREMENT_UNIT_KEY.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Wolfgang

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Re: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

Hard to say without seeing all the datasets in front of me, but it is likely to be something similar to the problem Tony was having. Are you sure you are matching the fields the same way in both the excel and access versions?

Rob Large
Wildlife Sites Officer
Wiltshire & Swindon Biological Records Centre

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Re: Badgers Importing with Measurement Qulifiers

Hello,
I solved my problem. In the end the MEASUREMENT_UNIT_KEY was wrong.

Wolfgang