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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

Hi everyone

Posts regarding the management of locations and also a query regarding civil parishes in Rotherham, has got me wondering how the Admin areas dictionary in Recorder 6 is currently used and in what context?

The request I received was to have another entry of 'Rotherham' (as a civil parish in it's own right) under the parent of 'Rotherham'.

I just wondered what other users thought about this, and how they use the Admin areas in general?

Kind regards,

Sarah

Sarah Shaw
Biodiversity Information Assistant
JNCC

Sarah Shaw
Biodiversity Information Assistant
JNCC

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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

We rarely use the Recorder provided admin areas as we hold that information in the GIS. Plus it's a very laborious process adding all of the admin areas for a particular site. Ideally one should be able to add a parish to a location and then the parent admin areas are added automatically.

Charles Roper
Digital Development Manager | Field Studies Council
http://www.field-studies-council.org | https://twitter.com/charlesroper | https://twitter.com/fsc_digital

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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

I agree with Charles on this.  We do currently add the parish, district and vice-county for every site added to Recorder, largely because it was something we did before we converted to Recorder years ago.  It would be much easier, given that the hierarchy of parishes to districts and counties is already defined, to add the parish and be able to assign the district automatically or derive it when producing reports/extracts.

Andy.

Andy Foy
Systems Manager
Greenspace Information for Greater London (GiGL) CIC
www.gigl.org.uk

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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

Hi Andy and Charles

Many thanks for your comments - perhaps worth adding the above to my list of requested features?

What do you think of having two entries of the same name in the Admin areas dictionary - one from 'Rotherham' as a parent for the all the parishes in the area, and another entry of 'Rotherham' as a civil parish?

Kind regards,

Sarah

Sarah Shaw
Biodiversity Information Assistant
JNCC

Sarah Shaw
Biodiversity Information Assistant
JNCC

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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

How about making it possible to link two currently distinct concepts here.
Charles & Andy, if I understand them correctly, are talking about the assigning of Administrative Areas (AA) on the Location's Geo Info tab
In several previous postings we have been discussing a similar kind of assignment but in this case using the Location hierarchy to assign locations down to the level of parish.

Supposing these two were connected, that (1) by moving a location to a parish within a location hierarchy, the AA values were automatically added AND (vice versa) (2) by assigning the parish to the AA, the location moved itself to the correct place in the hierarchy.

Clearly this is fairly complex, it would require all the parishes to be available as AAs and each parish (and parents) would have to be set up as a location - with its appropriate AA assigned.

Perhaps these might be achieved by buttons rather than automatic systems:
(1) Move the location anywhere in the hierarchy, hit the "AA assign button" and the AAs of the parent locations are assigned,
(2) "move to hierarchy" technique could be achieved by assigning the AA, highlighting this selection then hitting a "Move hierarchy" button (this might just be quicker than my current method)

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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

I like that idea a lot Darwyn - it would certainly make managing random locations a lot easier.

Charles Roper
Digital Development Manager | Field Studies Council
http://www.field-studies-council.org | https://twitter.com/charlesroper | https://twitter.com/fsc_digital

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Re: Recorder 6 Admin Areas

Hi everyone

Many thanks for all your suggestions - as Darwyn points out it would be very useful to have these distinct areas of Recorder functionality working in-sync.

I'll add this suggestion to the general improvements thread here - http://forums.nbn.org.uk/viewtopic.php?id=420 so that it can be prioritised along side the other improvements.

Kind regards,

Sarah

Sarah Shaw
Biodiversity Information Assistant
JNCC

Sarah Shaw
Biodiversity Information Assistant
JNCC