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Whoops!
One careless "delete" whilst selecting an object on a map layer and the whole layer's disappeared rather than the selected object.
How do I get it back please.

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So how did you delete the layer? Did you accidentally hit the delete key then click yes to the 'are you sure' question thinking you were deleting the polygon, rather than the whole layer? Either way, there's no way of retrieving a deleted layer that I know of, other than restoring from backup. An undo feature would be nice...

Charles Roper
Digital Development Manager | Field Studies Council
http://www.field-studies-council.org | https://twitter.com/charlesroper | https://twitter.com/fsc_digital

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I did exactly that, Charles. What a useful feature that is; unlike any other app. I've ever used it deletes something other than the thing that's selected. Perhaps we ought to suggest a random nuke button with a mushroom cloud icon that deletes all sorts of other critical things. Fortunately it was just my Parish layer but it's still a day's work to reimport and reattach to all the parish locations. Just goes to show how dangerous it would be to assign anything important (like Local Wildlife Sites) to this mapping module.
Thanks for the tip, you've saved me the heartache of spending the first hour this morning trying to "undo". Junior staff and volunteers nowhere to be found today, of course - I hope the rain buckets down and they're driven indoors from their fieldwork to help me.
"I'm not infallible you know. I said I was wrong once and was proved right." (Dill the dog from the Magic Herb Garden)

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Dash the rain, I could be outside. Instead I am re-attaching polygons.
If someone can tell me how to remove the delete key from Darwyn's keyboard I would be grateful.
In the future when adding 'associated locations' to polygons can we have recorder miss out the 'Find location name' box and pop straight to the location hierarchy. It is becoming a bit of a pain selecting the correct location from the text list - we have many locations named the same as the parish.
Of course if Darwyn wouldn't delete layers in the first place. . . .:P

Lizzy Peat
HBIC

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For the record, we don't use or trust Recorder's mapping with any critical data, although it works as a quick and dirty lightweight GIS. We prefer to do GIS work in the GIS and bring Recorder data across into that, rather than bring polygons into Recorder. I feel your pain though. I think that the ability to deleting whole layers via the delete key is dangerous and should be changed so that only an explicit selection of a menu item (or via a right-click menu) should do the job. I think disabling the delete key action would probably be a very small change. Hopefully Sarah will pick up this thread and submit it as an incident report.

Charles

Charles Roper
Digital Development Manager | Field Studies Council
http://www.field-studies-council.org | https://twitter.com/charlesroper | https://twitter.com/fsc_digital

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We don't use it much, either, Charles. We do, however maintain a Location hierarchy based upon Parishes which matches well with our Parish-based paper filing systems, Parish-based Community Warden systems and District SLA services. As a home user I do a similar thing but at Vice-County level.
Each new Location (e.g. imported stuff) gets dumped into the right parish (select location|ctrlX|right click Find on map|click parish polygon|Associated locations|Paste|End).
That's about as complex as we go with the Recorder "mapping" (Hannah used to call it that, not really a GIS).
Our serious GIS stuff is done by other means - don't want to go into that, there's enough to be said on it to fill a dozen conferences.
Thanks for your support and sympathy, I think it's now the fourth time we've done that (but the first time they have been able to blame me)

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I'll raise an incident so that pressing delete will not delete the map layer unless its the currently focused control. That should prevent this happening again.

John van Breda
Biodiverse IT

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Just back for 10 days leave & had a good chuckle (& sympathy too, of course :o ) over this thread. Regarding reassociating locations, a wee tip I'd suggest here is twofold:

Once you've got a fairly fixed list of associated locations, make a rucksack with said places & export it with no obs but with subsite options on. Screw up a layer?
No problem: Import the polygons first then import the saved ruckack export

The second thing I did when setting up the locations to get around with a future hassle is actually record which polygon ID's match to which location/comprtament. To elaborate, we've got 1500 associated locations so it was no mean task, however you can then use the map navigation tool to find your unlinked polygons far faster.

The other thing I'll pop in here is include mushroom cloud button with the line " how confident are you that you'll get things back once you press this?"

Cheers now, Rob

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Continuing this thread rather than starting another, very similarly related one...

Anyhow, we've had a GIS-based project that has trawled through all our Reserve boundaries over the past year & resulted in an updated polygon sheet. So although we're talking in many cases, changes of a few metres or so, nevertheless, it would be preferable to have our associated locations match their legal boundaries instead of... well I think you get the picture!

So although I'm personally inclined to think that they are going to have to dedicate some volunteer-time to this (1200 polygons at last count), does anyone have any examples of a workaround for updating polygon sheets?

Cheers now Rob.