1 Topic by ser

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Topic: losing valuable info in exports

Here is the scenario:

PersonA and PersonB both run Recorder and share their record via Rec2Rec export, so they both have identical datasets

PersonA redetermines a record in his copy as know incorrect and then exports to PersonB

However, the export routine does not export records failing validation, hence PersonB does not receive the amended verification - surely this is a serious bug in Recorder which means PersonB thinks they have a clone of PersonA's records, but the changed determination is not being exported!

PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG

Craig

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2 Reply by charliebarnes

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Re: losing valuable info in exports

No, you are right - I've just tried to export a single obs verified=1 (failed/pending) record and the MDB contains one blank TAXON_OCCURRENCE table (i.e. no samples, events). Nothing else.

Ticking the "do not validate" box on the export window, the MDB contains the hierarchy but no taxon_occurrence or determination tables.

Using the NBN XML format, more data gets exports (looks like the hierachy again) but no taxon occurrences.

Charlie Barnes
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Greater Lincolnshire Nature Partnership

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3 Reply by MikeWeideli

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Re: losing valuable info in exports

Exporting via a Recording Scheme will export records failing validation. Having said that I have never been comfortable with this as it is far from obvious. I personally think users should have the option to make the decision.

Mike Weideli

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4 Reply by Janet Simkin

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Re: losing valuable info in exports

We have had the same problem but seem to have got round it by using export filters rather than the simpler method of exporting from a rucksack. Is that right?
Janet

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5 Reply by MikeWeideli

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Re: losing valuable info in exports

I think you are correct. It is any export through Export Filters whih includes records failing validations, not just those for Recording scheme.

Mike Weideli

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