I set off an export of 300,000 records at 10am  this morning. Looks like after 8 hours it is still running, but nowhere near complete. Will let you know what happens.

Mike

I ran mine over the weekend and (woohoo!) came in this morning and it was stuck in the trying to e-mail (the machine I'm using doesn't have MAPI installed), so it was just impatience.....

BUT .....

The resultant NBN Zip files was only 3k in size, and when I unzipped the database it was totally empty! So.. complete waste of time and I've got to start again!

I do wonder if this problem was because I had already run an export earlier in the day which had created an NBN zip files of EXACTLY the same name - could the fact this already existed have cause the problem - if not this is a serious problem, because setting up a Recording Scheme is quite likely to have in excess of 180,000 records

SECOND PROBLEM

Now Recorder "thinks" it has successfully sent ALL the Lepidoptera records to the Recording Scheme, a repeat of the export results in 'no new records' so again an empty export!

It was impatience ;)

The export has finally worked (I had to use the ordinary export using the same filter as the Recording Scheme)

It took 33 hours and the resultant database contained 152,000 taxon occurrences.

The time taken for exports is not linear - I also exported ONE survey which contained 180,000 records and this completed in less than 8 hours, whereas the above included records from any survey.

One worry, is that this still appears to be a lower number of records than I expected:

1) Exported 152,000 taxon occurrences
2) A basic report on ALL Species on the LEPIDOPTERA preferred checklist reports 273,000 taxon occurrences
3) A basic report on the Recorder 3 checklist where taxon="Lepidoptera" reports 276,116 taxon occurrences
4) Surely (1) and (4) should produce the same result since the export filter, I used filter on Taxonomic Group="Lepidoptera" - I can't understand the discrepancy

Considering the time taken to create the taxon dictionary this discrepancy is unbelievable - how can I promote using Recorder when it cannot make such a simple request reliably -   really ALL three requests above should produce the same result, since all I want is a list of butterflies and moths

Craig

A quick attempt at this shows that I was wrong to think that a filter on 'Taxonomic Group'  meant on  the Recorder Taxonomic Group when what is actually means is the taxonomic hierarchy.  I will do some more work to discover eaxctly what is happening.

Mike

Hi Craig and Mike
You are correct, the code for export filters by taxonomic group does not use the Full Name Translation option properly, so although it does expand across lists it uses the old technique of doing this and therefore does not work in many cases.
I have fixed this in the code so it will work correctly in the next release of Recorder. I also changed the "Taxon Groups" box on the Export Filters dialog to read "Higher Taxa" which more accurately reflects what it does.
Best Wishes

Does this 'fix' mean I will have problems exporting all the birds entered using the Recorder 3 list - because "Aves" does not occur on the Recorder 3 list, will I need to enter ALL the bird orders?

I'm am beginning to despair about the taxonomy side of Recorder, there seem to be SOOOOOO many inconsistencies