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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grass snake missing designations]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[charlesroper]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-08-03T15:12:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grass snake missing designations]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p><p>JNCC are currently looking at designations within Recorder and I shall ensure that this and other related issues are discussed when we next meet.</p><p>John</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[johnt]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-08-03T09:08:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Grass snake missing designations]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks like there really is a designation or two missing for the grass snake (<em>Natrix natrix</em>). According to my &#039;get designations&#039; XML Report, the grass snake has only a <em>Berne Convention Appendix 3</em> and a <em>Biodiversity Lists - Long List</em> designation. According to the JNCC website&#039;s <a href="http://www.jncc.gov.uk/page-1815">W&amp;CAct page</a>, it should have W&amp;CAct sections 9(1) and 9(5). This is based on the preferred list.</p><p>On a related subject, Mike Weideli pointed out to me to be careful of cases where a species is designated at the group level, but the dictionary doesn&#039;t have the designated group as an ancestor of the species. For example, the taxon <em>Reptilia</em> is designated under the Berne Convention Appendix 3. This means that slow-worms, grass snakes, etc., which are children of <em>Reptilia</em>, are designated too. However, the Recorder 3.3 dictionary does not have the <em>Reptilia</em> node in the taxonomic hierachy and thus the designation cannot apply. This is because the R3.3 dictionary only goes up to the Order level in the hierarchy (<em>Squamata</em>, in the example above).</p><p>So, this is one to watch out for. I&#039;m glad designations are going to be applied at species level in future!</p><p>Charles</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-07-25T11:45:59Z</updated>
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